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AGIA's Hail Mary Gas Tax Strategy

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Over the last few weeks I've heard both talk show callers as well as read blog comments asserting that AGIA is responsible for Denali and the recent tax hike approved by the legislature (ACES) has had no impact on the progress towards a gas pipeline.

In order to think that AGIA was responsible for both the ConocoPhillips proposal last December and the Denali project this spring, you'd have to ignore the fact that all of the major producers testified when the legislature was crafting AGIA that they wanted to bid, but AGIA didn't provide for a commercially viable project. 

More highlighting the fallacy of this argument later in the blog.

Last week on a local talk show, a guest stated, "when ACES was passed, a lot of people said it would harm future investment. But here we are with the producers pushing ahead with the Denali Project." The host replied that he hadn't heard that before and thought that was a great point.

No it wasn't a great point because it wasn't accurate.

In fact trying to use the emergence of Denali to prove the recent tax hike on the oil & gas industry was harmless ignores the fact that current gas tax rate under ACES is completely irrelevant for two important reasons; nobody is producing gas today so there is no way to judge its impact but more importantly everybody realizes the gas tax structure today, won't be in place tomorrow, if the state hopes to attract the final investment decision needed to build the gas pipeline.

Look, it's one thing to adopt a massive tax increase on a thirty year old legacy oil field, but that approach won't work if you're trying to attract new investment for the most expensive privately financed oil & gas project in North American history.

During testimony on AGIA in April of 2007, Department of Revenue Commissioner Pat Galvin was asked about the state's existing gas tax rate before ACES was adopted. Galvin replied, “Our level of confidence in the current tax rate is relatively low”.

A few days later in the House Resources Committee, lawmakers queried Commissioner Galvin about why the state wouldn't make necessary adjustments to the tax rate before asking for competitive bids under AGIA.

With all the concerns about the lack of fiscal predictability in AGIA, why wouldn't you want to nail down something as critical as tax rates, asked one Representative. How do you expect someone to submit a complete bid if they don't know what their tax rates are going to be, asked another.

“You have moved from a question of whether the producers need to have this level of certainty that they keep talking about at the time they submit the application or whether its at the time they commit their gas. What we have structured in the bill is that level of certainty we believe is appropriate at the time they commit their gas”, Galvin answered.

This was AGIAspeak for, "we have designed the bill so the producers can't bid on AGIA, so we will only attract independent pipeline companies."

Twenty four hours after Commissioner Galvin said the state had determined that it wasn't important for AGIA applicants to know the actual tax rate, the House Resources Committee took testimony from a prospective applicant who disagreed and told the committee just how critical it is for private companies in the real world.

“To make a sound and fundamental good decision, I have to know” replied Marty Massey from Exxon when asked about the importance of knowing the tax rate. “I don't know, I really don't know what rate to run the economics at because it can change, all of it can change”, Massey testified on April 12, 2007.

A year later, we have confirmation that AGIA was never about  attracting the most qualified applicants through a competitive process. If it was, you wouldn't have a process where the state ignored those who could build the project while subsidizing those who can't.

The bottom line is that setting a competitive tax rate wasn't a priority, because AGIA was always geared towards a third party pipeline company who wouldn't pay the tax rate.

On January 19, 2008, days after TransCanada was announced as the only viable AGIA applicant, Marcia Davis, Deputy Commissioner of the Department of Revenue testified in front of the Senate Resources Commitee.

Davis was asked if the legislature should begin discussions about changing the gas tax in anticipation of open season. "Beginning the gas talk discussion is certainly not inappropriate", she replied.

Davis went on to admit that the tax rate "effects what a producer puts into their consideration as they approach an open season and decide whether to tender their gas".

Whoa....hold on a minute. Isn't that exactly what Marty Massey from Exxon said almost a year earlier when the producers were advocating changes to AGIA to make it commercially viable so they could offer a competitive bid?

Yes, it is.

However for Galvin and company, they viewed the gas tax rate as leverage to force the producers to commit gas to a TransCanada pipeline, thus forcing a marriage governed by the vows of AGIA.

But they completely understimated the producers willingness to start their own project; even though every major producer testified last year during the AGIA hearings that they were interested if the state amended AGIA to promote a commercially viable project.

This is exactly why Commissioner Galvin was so animated last week when lawmakers asked about treble damages if the legislature  adopted a new tax structure. At the end of the day, a competitive tax structure could result in the producers moving ahead with Denali while AGIA's choosen one, TransCanada, waits at the altar after spending hundreds of millions of state dollars preparing for the wedding.

Don't do it, Galvin said. Don't think you're going to get cute and walk right up to that line because we will have to pay them treble damages, he added, sounding desparate that his AGIA Hail Mary  might be usurped by the legislature.

But this is where Palin's gas line team knows they're on thin ice with AGIA. 

The state can't adopt a tax structure and offer it to the producers only if they commit their gas to a TransCanada's pipeline. That would violate just about every equal access provision and restraint of trade clause known to man kind.

So instead, the administration's strategy is to try and force the producers to accept the terms of AGIA by committing their gas to a TransCanada pipeline in exchange for a favorable tax structure. If the legislature were to adopt a commercially reasonable tax structure before the producers caved in, the legislature would effectively neuter the administration's entire strategy.

I've said it before and I'll say it again; this arranged marriage concept is plain foolish and will put the project at risk.

Two weeks ago when FERC testified in front of the legislature they talked at great length about the urgency of not wasting time due to the major investments being made around the globe in search of natural gas.

Mark Robinson from FERC talked about how arctic gas has a competitive disadvantage and most of todays investment in gas infrastructure is going into equatorial areas like the Gulf of Mexico. And he pressed the need to get moving quickly due to the fact that other gas supplies were quickly being explored and developed.

Meanwhile, here we are trying to develop our arctic gas playing the role of Sheriff Bart in Blazing Saddles.

Aiming our own gun at our own head while warning investors that if they take one more step we'll shoot. 

This approach sets up a dangerous game of chicken that the state will not win, while putting our economy at risk.

Meanwhile the next time you hear someone say that AGIA is responsible for Denali, or that AGIA is going to be responsible for getting a gas pipeline built, remind them of the facts. 

Last year the producers testified the reason they couldn't bid on AGIA without amendments was because it didn't provide for a commerically viable project.

This year TransCanada testified the reason they needed the $500 million subsidy from the state was because AGIA required them to do things they wouldn't normally do in a regular commercial project.

And if anyone thinks the most expensive oil & gas project in the world will be built by a process where both the investors and the state's straw man have already stated that the terms in AGIA are not consistent with a normal commercial project, they're fooling themselves. 

 

 

 

 

  


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Blazing Saddles Wisdom

Mongo says " State need new sherriff,one we got is dum dum " Meanwhile, back at the ranch, everyone is reading the AGIA candygram as if it were true. Remember good town folks, the big White House way back east call the real shots. AGIA is about as powerful as ranch beans around the fire, it makes for a small amount of gas and a few laughs, until the treble damages bill comes due.


Jim's so called comments

Jim, you are so pathetic. First of all why don't you supply us with your full name? We all know who Andrew is, and of course you can see that I have used my actual name. Why are you hiding? Step up to the table like a big boy. Andrew has always provided references for the points he makes - where are yours? Don't just provide us with wild statements that we are supposed to accept as facts. Most of the people that participate in this blog are intelligent folks that are interested in "facts" and not just personal opinions. Remember there are always two sides to every story and AGIA certainly has its problems. Quit hiding your head in the sand like some stupid Ostrich. Sorry about that I don't mean to offend an Ostrich. I'll say it as simply as I can, just for you. TransCanada has no gas. TransCanada does not have the finacial means to construct a pipeline in Alaska, otherwise they would not require our money to do so. TransCanada will play the treble damages for all its worth. The Denali project is our only hope to getting an actual gal line constructed. Get real.


the one accurate statement in this entire rant...

"I've said it before and I'll say it again." My God, don't we all know that.

Andrew's Response:

The one accurate statement?

If it is truly the only accurate statement in the entire blog, surely you can point out all of the things that aren't accurate.

Don't run off and hide....tell me where I'm wrong.

 


Expain Yourself

Jim, you're comment needs help. Now, we're starting with the first of a few truths you need to hear. Next, Alaska IS NOT a big time player in the oil & gas business. This is not because the resource isn't there but because there is a notion that you can bite the hand that feeds you and forever get away with it. 3rd, BIG OIL has been good to this state and if that's to continue they'll need a reason to stay...because #4, lots of other oppurtunities are showing up such as the Bakken Basin in N Dakota, the gas play out of NE BC, and on and on. Get the picture? No? Well, let's put it this way...follow the money. There's 18,000 wells planned this year for Alberta alone. What about AK? Maybe there's 200 total! Time to grow up Jim. If a gas line is to come together it will take teamwork which include working with the producers. Now it's your turn. It would be interesting hearing you explain yourself.


What is this?

Andrew, Quite a comprehensive review (along with your entry earlier.) Interesting to note when the AGIA or bust crowd don't have a plausible response they just throw out something like the comment from Jim above. Jim, it is hard to refute the treble damages and the fact TransCanada can't do it without the producers. Such a shame we are willing to continue the charade so that our Queen doesn't have to accept a defeat - even if it is the right thing to do for our state.


Dear Anonymous (if that's your real name)

There's nothing comprehensive about the entries Andrew makes. They are simply ad hominem verbal vomitations of the same disinformation. 1) the treble damages don't apply to the LNG project because IT'S NOT COMPETING! just stop with the constant attempts to confuse the issue. 2) the treble damages don't apply to the ANGDA or Enstar spur lines. again, NEITHER ONE IS COMPETING! read the blasted language and listen to the testimony of the people that are promoting those projects, the legislative legal opinion, and the administration itself. 3) transcanada can't do it without the producers: well, that's brilliant isn't it. no independent pipeline in the US owns gas. none. it's illegal for them to own the gas. FERC rules, andrew can quote those for. how about this: the producers can't do it without transcanada, who can't do it without the state, who can't do it without the producers and transcanada. can we stop with the arguments that basically go "you can't do it because to move gas you need steel and transcanada doesn't own any steel". the only one i've heard that doesn't seem to want to accept defeat is andrew. still fighting to win the 2006 election. good grief, give it a rest.

Andrew's Response:

First you need to take a deep breath because you are so off the mark it's embarassing.

Nowhere I have ever...ever...made the assertion that the treble damages clause would impact any project under .5 bcf. The AGIA legislation is very clear that projects under that amount would not trigger the treble damages clause.

My concerns and comments regarding the real possibility of treble damages are strictly limited to the TransCanada AGIA application, which is a proposal to build a 4.5bcf overland route through Canada.

So to prove your not throwing around fasle accusations, please show me where I've ever stated that the treble damages would apply to either ANGDA or Enstar.

With regards to the fact that TransCanada cannot do it without the producers. I dont know where you've been hiding since this debate started but even TransCanada's own executives have made it very clear that this project will not be built without the agreement and support of the producers.

I'll let their words speak for themselves:

"Eventually, it's come down to the big producers. ExxonMobil, ConocoPhillips and BP are the ones most likely to hold the shipping commitments, so whatever kind of project is put together has to be one that works for the producers." 
Hal Kvisle, CEO, Transcanada, April 2004

"As you will recall, TransCanada has consistently advised your administration to be wary of independent pipeline proposals that would seek to develop a pipeline without the agreement and support of the ANS producers.”,  June 13, 2006 letter from Hal Kvisle, CEO of TransCanada to the State of Alaska 

"No customers, no credit, no pipeline". 
Tony Palmer, VP Transcanada, April 2007 

The fact is that TransCanada can't order one piece of steel without the producers agreeing to financially backstop the project by signing long term ship or pay commitments.

So no, I don't think anyone should stop saying that without the agreement and support of the producers this pipeline doesn't get built...after all, the state's chosen AGIA winner, TransCanada, has repeated the same thing for the last four years.

And as far as your comment about independent pipelines...those lines are only built after the independent pipeline builder has  negotiated commercially viable terms with producer/gas shippers who ultimately pay for the cost of the pipeline....which gets us back to our original point that no one should forget.....no producers, no pipeline.

Before you come back here....school up on the basic issues of the debate so you don't appear so foolish.


Dear Jim (if that's your real name)...

which we know is not. I prefer to remain anonymous because I don't trust the average Palinbot, though Andrew knows who I am and that is all that matters. My name matters less than my message. BTW, your message is loud and clear: you've completely lost it. You truly are out of your league here. I would highly suggest you keep your day job, whatever that may be. Hopefully it's not in teaching because I would have to feel sorry for your students. You are a good example of our failing educational system.


Jim, take time to get informed.....Read.

Within the first 3 sentences of Jims attack on today’s blog, I could tell for sure he did not read one word of it. Either he didn't read it or he didn't understand it. The treble damages come in to play when the legislators try to give the shippers some fiscal certainty on how the gas will be tax' ed. That’s been one of the big fears of Galvin and Co. these past few weeks, that the legislature will do something stupid and talk taxes with the producers. That will be grounds for treble damages What else is so inaccurate in todays blog Jim?.....just askin


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