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Upon her arrival yesterday in Fairbanks, Governor Sarah Palin greeted a crowd of 2,000 people with a short speech. We've gone through the remarks and offer up some checks on facts and reality.

Comment:

Palin said she took on politics as usual in Alaska, and made the claim that the "old oil monopoly, undue influence there that had control of our state, it's broken."

Facts:

The only thing Palin did was raise oil taxes to one of the highest marginal tax rates in the world. She didn't break any monopoly as the only way you could possibly do that is by revoking their leases and gutting the ownership terms of the Trans Alaska Pipeline. Both of those actions would be illegal. She did nothing more than raise taxes.  

 

Comment:

"And the ethical standards that had led to closed doors and closed door dealings, self-interest, it's gone."

Fact:

The ethics bill she passed had actually been proposed by Democrats in the legislature before she was even elected but didn't pass until the FBI raided several lawmakers office. Then and only then, did lawmakers who refused to take action under former governor Murkowski, agree to move the bill forward when Palin got elected and ethics had become too big of an issue to ignore.

In addition, her administration has hid behind a questionable claim of executive privilege and refused to release 78 pages of emails, totalling 1,100 communications even though many of these were copied to her husband who is not a member of the executive branch. And today, her administration has gone from telling Alaskans that they'd participate openly in the Monegan investigation to stalling and suddenly calling the investigation unconstitutional.

Comment:

Palin said people around the nation are saying "thank you, thank you Alaska," when they hear about the natural gas pipeline from the North Slope.

Fact:

The governor has completely over sold the pipeline plan she passed through the legislature. What the governor's gas pipeline plan does is grant $500 million to a Canadian firm to file paperwork without having the means to actually build the pipeline. Not only is there no guarantee it will be constructed by the Canadian firm, but their CEO has said repeatedly that they cannot order one piece of steel pipe until the major oil companies agree to pay the cost of the project.


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Sarah Palin

Help us, Andrew. Your information needs to be getting out to the general public. Help us...before this country makes a terrible mistake and votes in a deceptive and manipulative ticket that will take an already suffering America and push it over the edge. Get the word out in a BIGGER FORUM!!!! PLEASE!


Palin does not know what she's saying

There is still a debate with Native's in Canada, whether they will negotiate this land or get compensation....another Lie, So much left to do before contract signed.


Not quite Andrew. In

Not quite Andrew. In addition to tax increases, DNR has taken a hostile approach to dealing with oil companies, ceased all constructive conversations, refuse to negotiate on anything, and have adopted a fight and flight posture with Alaska’s only meaningful industry. As to Governor Palin, she has certainly worked across party lines and until recently has had Vladimir Les Gara as her biggest fan. His recent reversal and backstabbing of Palin as VEEP just confirms what a sleaze-bag communist he really is. It is time for Governor Palin to introduce a new team in Alaska – one with the competencies needed to negotiate with industry and move resource development, including gas, forward. So long Commissioners Irwin, Rutherford and Galvin.


Lies

"One of the striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." Mark Twain, Puddn'head Wilson


Both ways

Fact: You are parsing words and putting your interpretation of her speeches as gospel. We've gone over this before.....you are trying to have it both ways. You can't say that "Palin passed" an oil tax hike without noting that the Legislature passed the tax increase and it was higher than Palin had proposed. And if she is to blame for the tax increase - since she let it become law - then she gets credit for the ethics reform. One or the other. And she has not made any claims about the gas line that are not true. She said, "I fought to bring about the largest private-sector infrastructure project in North American history. And when that deal was struck, we began a nearly forty billion dollar natural gas pipeline to help lead America to energy independence. That pipeline, when the last section is laid and its valves are opened, will lead America one step farther away from dependence on dangerous foreign powers that do not have our interests at heart. The stakes for our nation could not be higher." What - FACTUALLY - is untrue in that statement?

"we began a nearly forty billion dollar natural gas pipeline"...what we began is a process where we are paying TransCanada $500 million to push paperwork to try and get a federal permit. They cannot...cannot...build this pipeline until the very companies that Palin has ignored (but is now reaching out to) agree to write the checks. AH


JimAK vs Andrew

So JimAK thinks his interpretations and analysis are better, somehow, than Andrew's. I don't think so. I do agree with you JimAK that Andrew's opinions are just that, opinions, and we all have our opinions. For me, it is hard to think a project "just" began that actually began over thirty years ago and then re-began or re-re-began under Murkowski. At best, it could possibly now be claimed the project "re-re-began" or "re-re-re-began" with the current effort. Of course, if the structure is flawed such that it can not or will not proceed and succeed, then it seems disingenuous to claim it has "re-re-began". For the Gasline, the finish date seems much more important than the start date. Did she say when she expects the last section would be laid and its valves opened? Or even the first section? I think not.


The difference is that:A.

The difference is that: A. Unlike Andrew, it is clear my statements are opinions, based on my interpretation of events. I don't present them as FACT. B. I also don't jump on Palin for saying something that may give an impression that is an exageration. Her job isn't to present every side of every issue, she isn't required to point out the good and bad in everything she did. She says she killed the Bridge to Nowhere. She did. She says she started the gas line. She did. Both statements are FACTUALLY correct and it is up to others to determine how to weigh those accomplishments - and it isn't fair to accuse her of lying or obscuring the truth.


Help me out here. In your

Help me out here. In your deliniated point A...you stress the importance of the distinction (in your opinion) that Andrew is presenting opinions as facts, and your statements, conversly, are clearly opinions, and that you dont present them as facts. OK fair enough I guess. But then you go on in point (B.)..to present two statments as FACTUALLY correct, (emphasis yours) that are, how can I put this, simply not. I think everyone can agree, at this point, that politicians are not required to point out their policy failures. But here's the thing on the infamous Bridge earmark, a little lesson in sausage making. First, just a point of trivia, the bridge to nowhere wasn't even really an earmark, it was an authorized program, that later got appropriated, then later got de-authorized. Ok, hold your nose warning, but here we go. Sausage making 101. The bridge(s) funding was originally created in an authorization bill, which contain all the programs that the government intends to fund, and which Congress also directs and specifies, a specific amount of money for. Those programs lmust be funded by a matching appropriation, which happens in a seperate piece of legislation. The bridge to nowehre 'program' was authored and thereby created, by Alaska's own Don Young in a 2005 re-authorization of the surface transportation law. Soon after, the project was discovered by a watchdog group, and Sen Coburn attempted to have the funding stripped in the attached appropriation bill. This was a temporarily unsuccessful move, as the Senate sided with Don Young, and passed the appropriation legislation anyway. However, when the authorization bill went to conference committee to draft the final language (reconciling the House and Senate versions) to be voted on and sent to the president...by this time, the public outcry had increased in volume to the bridge projects. And so, a compromise that was struck in conference.(again, thanks Don Young, and Ted Stevens) The compromise, was to de-authorize the projects in the (i.e. Congress now says, by federal law, that money, CAN NOT/MAY NOT be used for that project), but - allowed the state of Alaska to keep the $223 Million, to be used at their discretion on any transportation project. Which by the way, put the new Governor in quite the lucky seat, I would think. I could probably name 49 other Governors, especially a newly elected first term Governor, who would have loved to recieve $223 Million dollars from the federal treasury...no strings attached, to be used on any transportation project they wished. But I digress. So...flashback to Sarah Palin's campaign for Governor. I'm sure you know there is no shortage of videos, interviews and public statements where she was quite clear in her support for the project, and frankly, her pledge to work with Alaska's senior leadership in Washington (that would be Don Young and Ted Stevens, who's endorsement she sought and recieved, by the way)...to get even MORE of these federally directed funds and/or earmarks. Flash forward to her first year as Governor...by now the national media had made a mockery of the infamous project...and the federal dollars, generous as they were, were not even enough to build the bridges in question...Alaska would have had to kick in another 100 million or so to even get them built. So THEN, and only then, did she kill the project...at the state level. But a critical point of information, is the FACT...that at the time that she killed the projects at the state level, it would have been against a federal law...for her to use that money, on the bridge projects. I suppose in fairness and fact, she did have a choice, technically. She could have taken the free $223 (by free I mean to say, there was no longer any required matching state dollars, as was required by the original authorization/appropriation)and spend it on, whatever, and then, she could have chosen to cough up $300 million ++, of STATE MONEY to complete the bridges. Like many have noted, she's a skilled politician. She chose to scrap those 2 bridge projects, take credit for the new free money, and call herself a refromer. As for your other 'fact' that you cite (while you are clearly stating opinions, according to you)...is that Sarah Palin started the Gas Line. I know my way around Congressional legislation, but I'm not as up to speed on all things Alaska. So I suppose I could be crazy, but it seems to me I've been hearing about that project being underway, for about 20 years or so. Which would mean Gov Palin was working on this deal for a long time, since the mid eighties, which must mean she was on the case of starting a new pipline, in between beauty pagents. Anyway, I'm sure there someone on this forum who can clear that one up for me.


Some gasline perspective

The gasline has fond memories for me. My wife had a job drafting up geotechnical drill results on the line. Her health insurance from that job paid for my first son's birth. That son got his MS from UAF a few years ago and has been out working around the state. Yup, that's about 26 years. We haven't even started the geotechnical drilling for Sarah's line.


Metamorphosis

How many times does a lie have to be repeated before it becomes truth? I'll bet she has the calculation.


WSJ Article

I didn't see a comments link for the WSJ ethics advice article and so am placing my comment here. If there is anything that spells T-R-O-U-B-L-E that cannot be effectively spun by the McCain campaign, I think these communications from the ethics advisor are IT. Why? The signs indicate McCain's group did not know anything about the advice to fess up and apologize and the underlying assessment of the situation made by that advisor which caused him to call the situation "grave." Partly it is evident from what the advisor says in his letters, but more notable is the deferral of the campaign to Palin's office and then the ineffective response from her deputy press secretary. This is not how they have been handling other issues. The campaign has always had some sort of put down to issue and that press deputy is not shy about being vicious. Me thinks they are caught with their collective lower garments down. (Can't say "pants down" anymore without being sexist.) Loyalists will still say this is a minor issue blown out of proportion but that it about all they will be able to muster. AH--How did these letters come to light?


Disclosure

Anonymous asks a good question: How did these letters from Wev Shea become public knowledge? Were they released as part of the response to FOIA requests? One might have thought that if there was ever a good argument for privilege, it would relate to letters from an attorney to Palin . . . of course, the story is that he was acting as a volunteer and apparently not as counsel engaged to represent her.


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