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Why NANA is fighting back against Ballot Measure 4

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In the battle for the hearts, minds and votes of Alaskans, the real story of Ballot Measure 4 is the mob like threats and shadowy financing being used by the proponents of the measure.

Ballot Measure 4, which will appear on the August 26 primary ballot, is a pre-emptive strike by opponents of the Pebble Mine. A mine which hasn't even been proposed yet. The problem is the initiative doesn't just prematurely toss the baby out with the bathwater...it throws out the entire bathroom. 

The behind the scenes political battles that have been hidden to the public have been nothing short of epic.

In a gathering of executives earlier this year, NANA President Marie Greene was asked by a colleague why she would put a bull's eye on her back by wading into the contentious advertising fight over Ballot Measure 4; the so called clean water initiative.

"If we don't stand up for ourselves, who will stand up for us?" Greene responded.

Considering the significant negative economic impacts that could occur if Ballot Measure 4 passes, Greene's response wasn't a surprise; but the question of why she would stand and fight this ill-conceived ballot measure sure was. 

It highlights just how little people understand what is really at stake in this battle. 

When you consider the threats and attacks that NANA has endured from Ballot Measure 4 organizers who are basically the emissaries of a wealthy self serving lodge owner, it's impossible not to look at Marie Greene as the kind of leader you'd want fighting for your economic future. 

The Economics

NANA currently operates the Red Dog Mine in Northwest Alaska with their partner Tek-Cominco. In 2007 mining revenues topped $58 million dollars. Sixty two percent of NANA's profits are distributed to other Native Corporations through the 7-I provision.

The mine currently employees 465 full time employees with an annual payroll of $48 million with almost 56% of those employees being NANA shareholders from a region that is beset with high unemployment and a lack of good job opportunities.

This is money that goes directly into the hands of Native shareholders and comes back in the form of money for schools and local community support. And not just in rural Alaska. The economic benefits are spread statewide.

The Red Dog Mine uses the services of over 350 Alaskan companies every year from catering and engineering to environmental research. Between 1989 and 2007, Red Dog has paid over $150 million in salaries to Anchorage residents and $60 million to those living in the Mat-Su Valley.

Over the last twenty years, NANA has built an entire suite of supply companies that have provided services not only to the mine but to other industries in Alaska. This vertical integration has provided additional benefits to Alaska's economy by creating economic opportunities and good paying jobs.

Ballot Measure 4 puts this all at risk.

The Social Benefits

In an area that has been beset by chronic under employment, the mine has provided a guiding light for young Alaskans growing up in rural Alaska.

Schools have begun tailoring their curriculum to prepare students for opportunities in the mining industries. The mine itself has provided countless jobs for local residents who now feel a sense of pride and accomplishment of being gainfully employed and future opportunities are critical to the attempt to grow a more healthier socio-economic climate in rural Alaska.

The future holds great promise for the Red Dog area. Projections show that between now and 2031, the mine and associated claims could generate $6.5 billion in revenue to NANA, which almost $4 billion of that would be distributed amongst their fellow Native Corporations.

Ballot Measure 4 puts this all at risk.

The truth about the environment 

The Red Dog Mine operates under the most stringent environmental requirements anywhere. In fact, Alaska is the only state where fisheries get constitutional protections in the state's constitution.  

The water quality downstream from Red Dog is now better than it was before mining. Annual studies of the drainages below Red Dog show healthy and robust fish populations.

Numerous studies and sampling efforts show that Kivalina’s drinking water downstream from Red Dog meets stringent State of Alaska drinking water standards.

http://www.habitat.adfg.alaska.gov/reddog.php

 

The threats, The mob style tactics

This unpleasant journey all began when Ballot Measure 4 proponents, which have been bankrolled by a wealthy lodge owner named Bob Gillam, sent emissaries to Vancouver to meet with Tek Cominco executives about the Ballot Measure.

These emissaries were akin to mob henchmen.

Their message was simple; join us in opposing Pebble Mine or we will come after you...we will bring the mining industry to it's knees. Tek Comincio and NANA refused to back down.

Then came the meeting at NANA, where proponents of Ballot Measure 4 again threatened the corporation's executives to pull their television ads, which simply talked about the value of Red Dog mine, or they would attack the Red Dog mine.

NANA refused and shortly thereafter, the Ballot Measure 4 group started running ads calling Red Dog mine the largest polluter in Alaska. But those ads weren't truthful as they failed to explain just how that classification was arrived upon by environmental agencies.

Then the Ballot Measure 4 proponents came back again, and promised if NANA would back off, they'd have lawmakers adopt an amendment to HB134, (a bill that mirrored the ballot measure) that would grant NANA an exemption for the Red Dog mine. But again, NANA said no and they refused to sell out their fellow mining industry colleagues to protect their own interest. 

These Corleone type offers that NANA couldn't refuse but yet did, raise serious questions about the integrity of this whole group. 

First, how could the Ballot 4 people promise to have legislators amend the mining bill on behalf of NANA? How were the proponents of Ballot Measure 4 going to make this amendment happen; through Bob Gillam's high priced lobbyist?

Second, if the Red Dog mine was such a serious polluter as the organizers of Ballot Measure 4 have claimed in their attack ads, why would they offer them an exemption? 

Either their claims about Red Dog being a dangerous polluter were lies or these folks have less than pure motives.

This ladies and gentlemen gets us to the point; Ballot Measure 4 isn't about good public policy, it's about personal politics and the wishes of a wealthy lodge owner who doesn't give a damn if he wrecks the mining industry in his pursuit to stop the Pebble Mine.

This is the same gentlemen who six years ago bankrolled an advertising campaign attacking lawmakers who were working on a long range fiscal plan to solve the state's budget deficit, claiming the plan would harm the economy. Today, he is trying to protect his private luxury lodge at the expensive of the economy by putting high paying mining jobs at risk. 

But the bottom line is that this ballot measure has nothing to do with Pebble Mine. In fact if you read the measure, nowhere in the four pages does the words Pebble Mine or Bristol Bay even appear. In fact one of the organizers told me directly, "that the measure had to be written in vague language."

Vague language?

What are these people thinking?

In fact nobody has any idea just how this measure would impact mining. And what they have claimed the initiative won't do, like impact existing mines, is just plain wrong, especially given their own admission that the measure is "vague".

The supposed grandfather clause is completely fabricated because no mine has every permit granted in perpetuity. Permits expire and must be renewed on a regular basis and this measure creates the environment for changing rules and loop holes which could  encourage litigation.

Any planned expansion on existing mines could very well be called a new mine and be subject to an uncertain process. For instance at Red Dog, future development proposals such as Aqqaluk could be thrown into limbo due to the "vague" language in ballot measure 4.

Meanwhile the Ballot Measure 4 proponents continue to rely on miss-information and scare tactics to frighten people into voting for their admittedly "vague" ballot measure.

One of the groups supporting this measure, Americans for job security or AJS has repeatedly ignored requests to identify where all of their money is coming from. This is a group whose corporate address is a mail box at a UPS store outside of Washington D.C. 

Here's my guess where their money is coming from; the cash is being funneled through AJS by a wealthy lodge owner. 

After all, AJS has traditionally been a Republican attack group that goes after Democratic candidates during elections. You have to ask yourself, why in the world would they be involved in a ballot measure dispute unless someone was bankrolling the campaign.

It is no coincidence that some of the same individuals that are on the board of AJS are the same people involved with the advertising and strategy around Ballot Measure 4. This includes Art Hackney, whose ad agency is handling the ad campaign for Ballot Measure 4 and who is listed as the treasurer for AJS.

In an Anchorage Daily News article on Sunday August 17, reporter Elizabeth Bluemink writes that "Hackney claims he doesn't know the identity of the group's members or its source of money for the Measure 4 fight."

Wait a minute....Hackney is the treasurer of the group but yet he doesn't know where the funding is coming from?

Pebble Mine

While concerns about Pebble Mine are valid and will need to be vetted through the various and extensive levels of regulatory  agencies, not to mention the intense public scrutiny, there is no such thing as Pebble Mine today.

There are no Pebble plans, no Pebble permits and nothing established about the scope of the Pebble project. Today it is simply in the exploratory phase.

The reaction by the Ballot Measure 4 proponents is completely premature and in their attempt to stop a project that isn't even a project yet, they are literally adopting a nuclear approach to Alaska's mining industry.

And while Ballot Measure 4 contains absolutely nothing about Pebble Mine in its language, the ad campaigns have focused on making people who have concerns about Pebble Mine falsely believe that by voting yes on 4 that it is the only way they can stop it.

But as we've stated, this Ballot Measure will have tremendous impacts far beyond any potential Pebble Mine in the Bristol Bay Region. It will impact potential mines in rural Alaska like Donlin Creek and Rock Creek. It will impact mines in Fairbanks and as far south as Juneau.

In fact it is safe to say that Juneau is no hot bed of pro-development opinion, however even the local city assembly voted to oppose Ballot Measure 4 because the Green's Creek Mine is the largest local taxpayer.

The fact is even if you have concerns about the Pebble Mine, you can still vote no on Ballot Measure 4. 

There are other ways to address concerns about a potential Pebble Mine. 

Last legislative session there were a few pieces of legislation that would have been far less damaging and more specific than Ballot Measure 4 to address concerns about the Pebble Mine. 

Regardless, it still seems dangerously premature to begin harming Alaska's economy and an entire industry with a poorly thought out ballot measure that seeks to defeat a project that hasn't even been proposed yet.

The Ballot Measure 4 proponents are trying to mislead Alaskans into believing that this initiative is needed to protect against Pebble Mine and to protect salmon. Really?

Given the fact that the wording of this initiative doesn't include anything about Pebble Mine and that Alaska's constitution does include specific provisions to protect fisheries, this initiative is nothing more than a wolf in sheep's clothing that will impact one of Alaska's most important industries in regions far beyond the Bristol Bay watershed.

Regions that depend on mining because there is no commercial fishing industry. Regions where mining is their economic lifeblood. Regions where they desperately need jobs and future economic development.

Ballot Measure 4 puts this all at risk.

That's why NANA's President Marie Greene has no problem standing up and fighting for her shareholders, her fellow Alaska Natives and Alaska's economy.

After all, if Greene doesn't stand up for Alaska's economy who will? 

A self serving wealthy lodge owner and a shadowy group of characters with a post office box in Washington D.C.?       


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ballot measure 5

Well done Andrew ! I must admit that I was very un-aware of what exactly this bill was about. I consider myself the " average " Alaskan and all I really got out of the tv and radio ad's was about keeping our waters clean and this measure was the only fail safe way to regulate the mining industry from putting irreversable damage to our great state. Only until recently have I started to truly understand what is at stake and the impact that this ballot measure could pose. People can be very missleading and hard to understand. Im so glad that we have people like you Andrew, who are smarter than me looking after and taking care of us Alaskans and our great state. I know there is always two sides to every story but this issue should have never even made it to a ballot. My fear now is that missinformed Alaskans may vote yes and if they really understood the measure would have voted NO. Hopefully Andrew and other well respected Alaskans can get the word out and help all of us to understand the real impact this could be for Alaska.


I am confused!!!

I am confused, On one hand I am not a share holder! I am not a permit holder, but I am a life long Alaskan, I spent time in the fisheries, 33 years, and spent time working for about 4 different Unions and Non-union, had my own business! So pretty much seen the full spectrum of the Alaskan culture, Oh, I have traveled from Nome to Cape Yagataga!! My point is, that why should I support either, share holders and Native Corps have had there time, They do not represent fairness in hireing, you cant prefer or exclude people, what would we do if some other user group even mentioned preference! And as to the Bristol Bay fisheries, its like I told Art Hackney at the Bartelett Club, Why should I support you and and your Quest to suposedly protect the fisheries when you and Ted Stevens sold most of the fisheries down the toilet!! But the kicker is that the Native corps are the bigest supporters of Uncle Ted!! Wow! Do I want to get in this fight! Seems the only real losers are the people that beleive any of this crap!!


Prop 4 proponents don't understand the geology either

Andrew - Superb job on this one. I ran across some information on an event in 2005 that dumped tens of millions of gallons of acidified and metals-laden water into the Bristol Bay watershed. Surprise, surprise, the fish didn't disappear. Wrote a letter about it to the Fishwrapper, which refused to print it. Sources are AVO and ADF&G Commercial Fish. Here's the letter. Enjoy - Dear Editor, Recent ads in support of Proposition 4, the so-called Clean Water Initiative make hair raising claims that sulfide mines are terrible things that will befoul the rivers and streams of Bristol Bay, killing all the fish forever and with them, destroying 50,000 fishing jobs. In 2005, a collapse of the crater wall of Mount Chiginagak partially emptied its crater lake. Tens of millions of gallons of noxious, highly acidic water dumped into Mother Goose Lake, which is connected to the Ugashik District of Bristol Bay. This real nasty stuff killed all fish in the lake. If the anti-mining claims were accurate, this event should have also killed all fish in Bristol Bay forever. However, after a small decrease in sockeye numbers caught in 2005, the total catch of sockeye in the District the following two years increased. Clearly, sockeye are quite tolerant of noxious, metal and acid-laced waters. I expect they will be even more tolerant of an accidental discharge of tailings pond water clean enough to support stocked rainbow trout. The natural world periodically introduces huge amounts of some of the most toxic substances known to man into the environment. And it does so catastrophically. The fish do just fine. They will do even better with the Pebble Mine. Defeat this Proposition, as it is based on fear, ignorance and half truths.


Just a thought

The native this, the native that What about Alaskans? I've been here most of my life, my wife was born and raised here. My daughter was born and raised here. We ARE native Alaskans. And any company that has the right to hire on a racial basis should be put out of business or have their company seized and revamped to hire fairly no matter what your race. They try to hide behind the banner of "hiring shareholders", NOT, they're hiring family and underqualified people because of their bloodlines! This is not only racist, but it's also dangerous to other employees that have been properly trained and are qualified to hold the positions. I SAY BS! Vote yes on BM 4 so they can really screw our state up, then we can sue the hell out of em until the lawyers own everything. NANA and all the rest of the mining industry lawyers can take it all! and when everything is gone, mother earth will take care of herself, maybe take on a new look like say, oh I don't know, maybe... MARS! GREED IS GOOD! VOTE YES ON 4!


A Third Unbiased Party's Thoughts on BM4

Please check out DNR's response to BM4 and what they think of the adverse effects if this gets passed.

http://www.dnr.state.ak.us/opmp/mining/mining_initiatives.htm


BM4

I contacted Laine Welch to ask what the feeling from the commerical fishermen was on Ballot Measure 4. I had thought they would all come out with a very vocal opinion. She said they weren't planning on taking a stand, but their membership was in favor of BM4 as they were concerned about toxins affecting the fishing. However, I don't know that BM4 will do anything for existing water quality. And if the Pebble Mine is as damaging as stated, it won't pass the permitting process. I'm from Juneau, and know how difficult it is to get a new mine going!


Identities of those who threatened Teck-Cominco and NANA

Who were the two-bit thugs who threatened Teck-Cominco and NANA. Could this verge on extortion?


Pebble

I may not be the brightest penny in the pile, but it doesn't take PHD to figure out that a lodge owner doesn't want to share what he claims are his private million acres of Alaska land. The ads about Bristol Bay salmon fail to mention that most fishermen are not Alaska residents, cannery worker are not Alaskans and many are not even legal. We need a new poster, No Pebble, No ANWAR, No gasline,No Point Thompson = state taxes and No PFD


Thank you NANA

Andrew, An excellent article...thank you. The mining industry, and all the people who make a living supplying services and support to mining companies, owe a huge vote of thanks to the NANA Corporation. They took a strong yet dignified approach to fight the problem presented by Ballot Measure 4. NANA is truly a first-class corporation, epitomizing what greatness Natives of North America can achieve. It is very disturbing to see wealthy individuals taking actions that can so easily undo the tremendous advances these companies have made. The industry was warned that it must join in opposition to Pebble or it would be attacked as whole. This is the first of many attacks we can expect. The industry will never fold to such tactics. Ballot Measure 4 is an attempt to circumvent the stringent public process prescribed by the federal EPA and Corps of Engineers, and the state DEC and DNR. Pebble may or may not make it through that process. But the industry will defend to the end the right of any mining company to present its project for considereation under that permitting process. Alaska already has stringent environmental regulations that very effectively protect water and salmon. Ballot Measure 4 is unnecessary, and if passed, will cause long term damage to the industry and endless litigation. Like all Alaskans, we in the mining industry are all for clean water. I hope that enough Alaskans will realize that a No vote on 4 is not a vote against clean water. Its a vote against people playing politics with people's livlihoods. Greg Beischer President, Millrock Resources Inc. Anchorage


BM4

Thank you, Andrew for this thoughtful investigation. There has been so much confusion and this spells it out. I was already repulsed by the tactics of Gillam/Hackney but to find out they have been strong-arming the Native Corporations! Reading who all is involved in Americans for Job Security, at least those we can find out about, makes me want to take a shower. A national stealth PAC that refuses to say where the money comes from, keeps its members secret and stirs up controversy wherever it goes. Trent Lott tells lobbyists to funnel money thru AJS to defeat a Michigan candidate. One of his henchmen was involved in the shameful attacks on John Kerry Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which they had previously pulled on John McCain. In Montana in 2006 they fought against creation of a fund to pay health costs for people exposed to asbestos because it would create bigger government. In 2004, they defended the right of miners to just chop off the top of mountains in Appalachia to get at coal. No fish there, AJS? They fought against removing dams on the Snake River to revive salmon runs, so that’s how much they give a damn about salmon. I'll bet that's just the tip of the iceberg. And Art Hackney? He’s making at least a cool $240,000 off this debacle. And the final nail in the coffin for me, Hackney claims he doesn’t know the identity of the group’s members or its source of money for the Measure 4 fight. Really? Does everyone send in their pennies? Come on folks. Are these the folks you want influencing Alaska elections and our resource development? This should be required reading before anyone goes to the polls.


Brown vs. Ward or Sarbanes Oxley anyone?

In the early days of ANCSA, CIRI found itself in a battle over what was the truth, when an agressive candidate played fast and loose with false and misleading information similar to what we are hearing from Ballot Measure 4 propoents. CIRI was forced to sue to stop a wholesale takeover of its board by those who chose to stretch the truth about CIRI's mineral resources beyond recognition to win votes. This case "Brown vs. Ward" set the stage and standards for all future ANCSA elections to prevent those who without moral compass or compunction would eagerly trample over the truth and the rights of other stakeholders to defraud the electorate of their votes. The comparisons here are chilling in that while the use of false and misleading information to defraud voters is no longer allowed by law for ANCSA corporation elections, it is now freely allowed and publicly displayed out in every hour of every day up to balloting day for Measure 4. Worse yet, if the proponents of Ballot Measure 4 were a publicly traded company, they would have been shut down long ago by Sarbanes Oxley and it's leadership would suffer the same humiliation and ridicule as the leaders of Enron and Auther Anderson, not to mention jail time. How is it that we are able to regulate every ANCSA election in the state in the name of protecting voters from the fraud of false and misleading campaigning, yet we permit outside agencies such as AJS to freely defraud Alaskan voters, without recourse. Brown vs. Ward protected the right of voters to not be defrauded by false and misleading information. Sarbanes Oxley punished those who willingly lied to the public for personal gain. What law protects Alaskans from the false and misleading AJS?


wolves in sheep's clothing

I wonder if there is a way for Mr Gillam to get served some of his own cooking. People who work for him like Mr Hackney should be subject to a boycott and there should be some laws specifically designed to f*** with his lodge.


Thank you!

I was waiting for a understandable explanation to share with friends and co-workers. Andrew to the rescue again!


Greene not the only one

Marie Greene is not the only native leader who is standing up for Alaska. They are running an ad right now with several executives from the regional native corporations asking Alaskans not to support ballot measure 4. All of these people have staked their reputations on this. It is a very bold move, and I for one really appreciate their courage. The truth is at this point, nobody, including the owners and executives involved in the Pebble mine know what the mining plan will be. They haven't even found the edge of the ore body yet. Until the ore body is defined nobody can say how the mine will be developed. The people promoting ballot measure 4 are telling lots of whoppers in their advertising. I am getting very tired of hearing about tailings dams taller than the Space Needle or how this mine will single handedly wipe out the Bristol Bay fishery. None of these things are true. True to form the environmentalists never let the facts get in the way of a good horror story.


The Pebble Mine

Well Andrew, have you read what the Pebble mine people submitted to the state of Alaska about the waste pit dams? If not, you should before you even think of supporting Pebble. The Pebble people admit their huge waste pit dams are likely to develop leaks, so they have set up a monitoring system. Good, you say, but you should read the unwritten fine print. When the mine plays out the Pebble people will merely allow the Alaska corporation owning the mine to go belly up and walk away as so many other mining companies have done world wide. They will leave the mess and the responsibility to others. They'll take the money and run! Since the mine will have to be monitored almost forever who will pay the next 10,000 years of monitoring? The dams will eventually fail spreading their toxic goo all the way to the sea. Who will pay for the clean up that can be done. Not the Pebble mine owners! They will be long gone! Who does that leave holding the bag to pay for the short term greed? Alaska, the USA, and the native corportations will be on the hook for the next 10,000 generations. What amazes me is that the native corporations are so willing to sell out the future and their peoples for short term profits.

...I've offered no support for Pebble, I'm saying that this is the wrong way to go about trying to stop it. It's a nuclear bomb when what is really needed is a guided missle.

And I would beg to differ on Native corporations selling out their future. In all of these regions they understand that fish and game are the backbone of their cultures and understand they are a priority.


Clean Up Costs Must Be Prefunded

William, if you have read any fine print at all you would already know that mining companies cannot simply pack up and walk away from clean up costs. State regulators already have the ability to shut down mining operations that do not provide satisfactory financial assurances for clean up costs and water treatment in perpetuity (forever). The cost is born by the cash flow from the mining operation and funded in advance of mine closure. Or, perhaps you have read the fine print and your post is meant only to misinform. Either way your post if factually inaccurate.


Native Corps and the environment

Andrew: the native peoples understand the fish and game, but the corporate leaders seem to only see dollar signs. We have already seen many examples of native corporation leaders buying into bad deals that Uncle Ted had to bail them out. And when Red Dog plays out, the mining company will walk away and leave the native people with the mess. What will NANA do then? Short term greed and long term pain. And if Pebble needs a guided missile to stop it when are you going to build that gm? Frankly, with all the money the Pebble people are throwing around, it is going to take a nuclear bomb effort to stop them. And if they are not stopped, eventually we'll have a disater worse than hundreds of nuclear bombs! And if you think the state of Alaska will control Pebble, how soon you forget the legislators in jail or on their way for being bought by Big Oil -- most of them selling their souls cheap.


Pebble

I just don't understand how anyone can believe that mixing toxic waste into salmon streams to dilute it is good for any living beings or their bottom line. I'm voting yes on 4!


Janet - listen to an old timer for some wisdom.

I was here in 1964 during the strongest earthquake ever! I can tell you that a 9.2 earthquake for 5 minutes will destroy just about anything. The world's largest earthen dam holding a giant waste pit will be no match for such an earthquake, or even one like devastated areas of California and Japan, also on the same Pacific Ring of Fire. The engineers know the dam will not protect through an earthquake and THIS IS AN EARTHQUAKE AREA. Alaskans have traditionally supported responsible mining, myself included, but this one is not worth risking the future of our salmon populations that would forever be wiped out in one major mistake. Greed can wait, too much is at stake! We were careful building the pipeline and the caribou have adapted to it and migrate fine, the bears walk on it. The tundra remained frozen despite the heat in the line because of the years of caution and careful planning. We can develop and extract resources wisely. An earthen dam with huge toxic waste pit by salmon streams is outrageous in this earthquake region - it is not a matter of IF but WHEN the next "big one" occurs. Those of us who rode out 5 minutes of the strongest earthquake on this continent and second strongest in the entire world know it is foolish to consider wasting our resources for Pebble. Wait until it can be safely considered. I've worked Republican campaigns and been politically active in conservative issues for 40 years but part company on this mine that is not like the others. Mining engineers know it is folly, Rick Halford, Republican legislator for many years, and Alaskan native Bella Hammond, wife of Governor Jay Hammond father of the PFD, and other Alaska natives realize and spoke out against Pebble - we must vote YES to preserve the salmon who require clean water at every stage of development! I am voting YES on #4 with you!


"Unwritten fine print" Well

"Unwritten fine print" Well Will, I guess you must be gifted to interpet all of this corporate evilness.. At best your post is simple fearmongering, scare tactics. The permitt process, when it begins can address the enginering and other issues related to the project. Andrew what happened to the bridge that the village wanted and needs. Did Bob not like it?


The first presenation I've

The first presenation I've read that makes sense on this issue. I couldn't figure out why to vote against clean water for our state - now I have more of an understandng on why it might be important to say "no" in this situation. I've stopped reading the ADN - I simply scan it now - it's fluff. This site is where a thoughtful analysis on most issues is being presented - not to mention some searing questions on the "transparency" of the state leadership. I don't always agree with you but I am always more informed from reading the information on this site.


Ballot Measure 4 Summary

Thanks Andrew for doing such a great job shining a light on this short-sighted and damaging Ballot Measure. This whole scenario so reminds me of Michael Crichton's book, "State of Fear." I lived in Illiamna and then in Dillingham several years back, when the Pebble anti's began sending environmentalist-minded, out of state grad students to the villages to gin up fear about Pebble. It was deeply offensive to me to see that manipulation happening among the people where I lived. That this measure is likely driven by extraordinarily wealthy lodge owners from Alaska and Virginia is no real surprise.


Who is driving clean water

Mr. Halcro and readers, there are hundreds if not thousands of working fishermen who are supporting and driving this initiative or something that will give us higher standards of protection for fish and their habitat because livlihoods and lives are being threatened by the potential for the minning industry to destroy fish habitat and fisheries. As long as companies can discharge and store waste that is toxic to fish in or near fish habitat - fisheries are at risk. So, how do you propose we eliminated this risk to renewable wild fisheries - one of our sates top employers?


Show me

Can you show me any river system in Alaska that has been compromised by mining? I can't think of any.


let science and not panic govern.

Our state has the resources to review, allow, or deny those potential hazards to our environment. Let science decide--NOT THE JUDICIARY!! We would set a dangerous precedent. No one, not even the most voracious Alaskan pro-developers would be for development at the cost of poisoning this other very important industry. We don't need anonymous outside influences on Alaskan politics anyway....


Ballot Measure #4

You say: "[T]here are hundreds if not thousands of working fishermen who are supporting and driving this initiative or something that will give us higher standards of protection for fish and their habitat because livlihoods and lives are being threatened by the potential for the minning [sic.] industry to destroy fish habitat and fisheries." However, according to the Anchorge Daily News (August 17, 2008): "While more than 100 people from Alaska and the Lower 48 have donated, most of the campaign cash for the "yes" vote is from a national "stealth PAC" that refuses to say where the money comes from, keeps its members secret and stirs up controversy wherever it goes." Although it is not clear how many "more that 100 people" have supported this campaign with their money, it sure doesn't sound like "hundreds, if not thousands" to me. I have not encountered a single person who has told me he or she has ever been invited to a pro-BM4 fundraiser. I infer that is because there has never been any and that Gillam is writing virtually all the checks.


HIgher Standards???

You mean more protection than the Alaska State Constitution already provides? I'm not sure that is possible, however you can make it a priority to vote out any politician who you don't like....... Neocon Todd


Constitution Sections?

Can you quote or document the section in the Constitution where these protective measures are stated? Anyone? Thanks!!


I LOVE IT!

Andy you continue to nail the issues on the head. If you were in the Olympics I'd give you a 10! I especially liked the following comment: "And while Ballot Measure 4 contains absolutely nothing about Pebble Mine in its language, the ad campaigns have focused on making people who have concerns about Pebble Mine falsely believe that by voting yes on 4 that it is the only way they can stop it." Why couldn't the sponsors work within the current processes and procedures? Why did Gillam, Hackney, and others create the initiatives in some dark lit back room without any public input from the Alaskan citizens, native groups, mining industry, or State agencies. What a cowardly and deceptive method to create policy and regulation for the State of Alaska.


So your basis of opposing

So your basis of opposing this measure lies in the fact that some of the money supporting measure 4 might from a wealthy lodge owner? If "outside" money is something that Alaskans should distrust then why would you support a "no" vote when Anglo American has dumped millions into opposing measure 4. The fight against Pebble is a home grown fight against some of the largest mine companies in the world... yet you harp on the _possibility_ that money might come from a lodge owner. As for NANA and Tek Comico... they've been in court for years pver Red Dog. And Tek Comico continually dumped toxins into the Columbia River. Read for yourself: http://www.ecy.wa.gov/news/2008news/2008-147.html


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