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The hub bub about TransCanada's Alberta Hub

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On Monday we posted a piece about rolled in rates, outlining one of several reasons why producers would be reluctant to ship gas in TransCanada's proposed AGIA pipeline.

Another reason why the producers would balk at committing gas is the control TransCanada would be given under AGIA to control the flow of gas. 

Under TransCanada’s AGIA proposal they will be bringing Alaska gas into the Alberta Hub. The Hub is a series of pipelines within Alberta that transfer gas from one part of Alberta to another, where it can go on into existing pipelines to other markets.

Bringing gas into the Hub may make sense if there is existing capacity in the pipelines exiting from the Hub and those pipelines go to the desired market. And gas production from Western Canada has been declining over the past few years, which may free up capacity in existing pipelines.

However, there are reasons it may not make sense to go into the Hub, particularly if there is not capacity in these exiting pipes. With rising gas prices unconventional gas production (shale gas, coal bed methane) has exploded in recent years. In the last 10 years unconventional gas production in the Lower 48 has increased by 3 trillion cubic feet per year. This is 8 bcf/d, or two North Slopes. In the next ten years the Department of Energy forecasts it will increase another 3 trillion cubic feet annually. Basically another two North Slopes.

FERC testified last Monday that money was being invested to find gas in virtually every country on earth except for Iran. And there is no reason to think this won't happen in Western Canada.

The gas shale potential of Western Canada is enormous. Just last month EnCana announced the discovery of 6 tcf of shale gas reserves in British Columbia in the Horn River Basin. The Beaverhill Lake area in Alberta also has enormous potential.

This shale gas could absorb all the existing pipeline capacity. This is one reason why the rosy economics presented by the administration may not be so rosy; additional supplies will drive price down. But in addition, the administration’s modeling assumed all you had to do is get the gas to Alberta.

If, at the end of the day, it makes sense to bypass the Hub completely because there is no existing pipeline capacity out of Alberta to the desired market, the pipeline may need to go all the way to Chicago. In that case the cost will be much more, perhaps $20 billion more, the value of the gas much less, and the administration’s economic modeling has been woefully inadequate.

But wait. There is more.

Again, under TransCanada’s AGIA proposal they bring the gas to the Hub. Why? Because they own the Hub. It cost 20 cents/mmbtu to put gas into the Hub, which devalues the Alaska gas. TransCanada will make lots of money off this. TransCanada also owns the pipes going out of the Hub.

But if, at the end of the day, it makes sense for the producers to bypass the Hub, they cannot under AGIA. 

I'm again reminded of the salient words of FERC last week when they said we could pass all of the restrictions we want (i.e. AGIA) but until you have companies (i.e. the producers) that will spend that first dollar putting a pipe in the ground...it means nothing.


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Same Reason to Build All-Alaska Line

Yes, the facts behind the hub bub for the TransCanada Alberta hub also support the reason to build an All-Alaska gas line! I know, you don't support that project, but facts are facts. The administration's economics for TransCanada's project don't match the "rationale" for getting the gas to the Lower 48 where, she says,they are desperate for our gas -- wrong -- there's plenty of gas there too (not just Western Canada) - not to mention the additional tariff which would wipe out the TransCanada NPV figures. So let's keep the jobs and liquids in Alaska and ship our gas to Asia where we'll get more $$ for it -- and most importantly, get gas to Alaskans sooner.


where in AGIA...

...does it say you can't bypass the Alberta Hub? That's just ridiculous. AGIA doesn't even contemplate a destination market. You're out on a broken limb, making stuff up again. $0.20 at the Hub, or a couple bucks to ship the rest of the way to Chicago. Even with my 11th grade education I can run those numbers. They teach math at Harvard Business School?

Andrew's Response:

Well, there you are again...I was beginning to think you'd gone out to start digging the pipeline route yourself.

TransCanada's Tony Palmer himself testified in front of the legislature this spring that every drop of gas would have to go through their Alberta Hub.

Here is a quote from the 3/26 edition of the Anchorage Daily News:

TransCanada has confirmed to the state that Alaska gas shippers will be required to send their gas into the company's Alberta pipeline system. And they'll have to pay an access fee.

Forget the math, maybe you should simply read their AGIA application as I've been writing about this for months.

http://www.andrewhalcro.com/transcanadas_take

For more, simply search "Alberta Hub" in the search box.


And there YOU are, speading more disinformation

"But if, at the end of the day, it makes sense for the producers to bypass the Hub, they cannot under AGIA." That's you Andrew, your words. Now, can you answer the question? Where in AGIA does it say you can't bypass the Alberta Hub? You say "they cannot under AGIA"? Show us the specific preclusion. Which page of the statute? Throw some quotes around it so we can tell what's real and what's you. You have a long history of saying "this guys said so and so" or "that guy said such and such". Give us the quotation. Your credibility is in question, here's a chance for re-hab.

Andrew's response:

Are you really serious?

Under TransCanada's AGIA application, it's clear as day that they will require gas to be shipped through their Alberta Hub. They have even admitted that fact in the press and before the legislature.

If you grant an AGIA license to TransCanada based on their AGIA application....that would obviously mean under the accepted terms (and approved by the legislature), they have been granted the right (as per their application) to require all gas go through their Alberta Hub.

As you know...or maybe not....AGIA was a request for proposals. TransCanada's proposal calls for all gas to go through their Alberta Hub. If granted the license, you've accepted their terms.

This exchange explains you people have no clue exactly what you're agreeing to.

 


Even Agatha Christie would agree...

that you, Poirot, are an "egocentric little creep." And by the way, Lou Ferrigno is predominantly deaf, so I imagine he hears as well as you do. I for one believe Andrew has much more in the way of credibility than you do, Mr. Dunkin. At least he is man enough to reveal his true identity. I'm not sure why it is so difficult to understand that one of the main players in this game, TransCANADA's Tony Palmer, stated himself that the gas MUST go through the Alberta hub. And yet you try to twist this around to blame Andrew??? Perhaps you should take this issue up with the person who made the statement, Tony Palmer. In the mean time, go back to the ADN mosh pit blogs where you belong.


Angry and very Cranky

Maybe I should get all souped up like you so Andrew will post my rebuttals to his disinformation. Seems like when I strike an especially raw nerve he just tosses my message in the dust bin. Calling names is tantamount to surrender. I'll consider this your concession speech. You just stay on the log ride. Maybe when the next gigantic issue affecting the state for the next century comes along Andrew will be on the correct side of it. This one seems to have completely escaped him. Still trying to remember the last thing the guy was right about...oh yeah, the thing about "cheap gas and cheap gold".

Andrew's response:

You get your ass kicked every time you come in here.

When was the last time? Oh yeah..just a few days ago when you failed to understand the facts about the Alberta Hub and TrasCanada's AGIA proposal.

Give it a rest. After all...from public testimony on Tuesday in Palmer, sounds like the administration is starting to go soft on their hard line with AGIA.

Geez...who could have predicted that?

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